Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kamen Rider Dark Kabuto
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 10:36, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
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This article was previously deleted after a proposed deletion remained uncontested for seven days. It was contested here by Ryulong and therefore reinstated by Explicit. While Explicit was correct to recreate the article since the proposed deletion was contested, the notability of this fictional character remains unestablished. The claims to notability as presented by Ryulong are that the character has been made into two action figures, has made an appearance in a television series outside the Kamen Rider franchise, and is a main character in the Kamen Rider Kabuto series. A fictional character's notability is not demonstrated by being made into action figures, making an out-of-context television appearance, or by being important within a fictional universe. Notability is demonstrated by "significant coverage in reliable secondary sources", something that this fictional character does not have. The two sources cited on the article do not constitute significant coverage and the second is a primary source. A search on Google Books and Google News reveals no additional coverage. Neelix (talk) 20:42, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- Keep: As I mentioned on Neelix's talk page, Explicit's talk page, and I will repeat here, this fictional character is notable for multiple reasons. First of all, he is a primary character in the Japanese television program Kamen Rider Kabuto. As such, you are not going to find reliable sources regarding the fictional character in Google Books or Google News, as this is a Japanese subject and you are probably searching using the translated English name. In addition to his appearances in 2006's Kamen Rider Kabuto, the character also appeared in the 2009 series Kamen Rider Decade in its 20th and 21st episodes. And as Neelix points out, I mention that the fictional character has been made into two action figures, one part of a limited run of which not every fictional character in the franchise becomes and one of which is a standard release (supplementary link). I can show that this fictional character appears in Google Searches 723,000 times and most are regarding his appearances in the two television series or nonprofessional reviews of the toys he was made into. This article currently does not have references that support the coverage the character received in the Japanese children's media when the television series he appeared in was on the air in 2006 as other articles on characters from the franchise, but I certainly do think that my arguments here confer that the fictional character is notable, despite Neelix's ideas and limited searches into the other language sources.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 20:58, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- In addition, this character is discussed in the publication Newtype The Live in its January 2007 issue. I am currently looking for mentions in issues of Televi-Kun, Televi Magazine, and Hyper Hobby.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 21:12, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- He is also discussed in Details of Heroes EX: Masked Rider System, published by Hyper Hobby magazine.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 21:56, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- Keep: Major character in a notable TV show. jgpTC 21:39, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:33, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- Delete as nominator - A fictional character is not sufficiently notable to justify its own article simply because they are prominent within a fictional universe. Ben Matlock and Robotboy are the title characters in Matlock and Robotboy respectively, but they are not sufficiently notable to justify their own articles. As for the possible Japanese sources Ryulong mentions, most if not all appear to be unreliable; based on the website addresses, the sources appear to be things like YouTube, blogs, and merchandise sites. If there are reliable secondary sources for this character, which it does not appear that there are, they should be added to the article. Otherwise, notability has not been demonstrated. Neelix (talk) 17:17, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- Your initial deletion request is already your "!vote" in this discussion. As such, you should not preface your comment with "Delete".—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 19:37, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- Also, Matlock and Robotboy have not been covered in reliable secondary sources like Dark Kabuto has (Televi-Kun, Televi Magazine, Hyper Hobby, etc.).—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 22:21, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- The use of "Delete as nominator" to preface the nominator's initial comment is a common and accepted practice. If there are reliable secondary sources for Dark Kabuto, add them to the article; at the moment, the claim that there is significant coverage of the character in reliable secondary sources is not substantiated. Neelix (talk) 00:51, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- I've never seen that formatting before.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 04:22, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- The use of "Delete as nominator" to preface the nominator's initial comment is a common and accepted practice. If there are reliable secondary sources for Dark Kabuto, add them to the article; at the moment, the claim that there is significant coverage of the character in reliable secondary sources is not substantiated. Neelix (talk) 00:51, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- Keep: I agree with Ryulong, a major character in Kabuto. It's not like New Kiva. Xtreme2010 ( ~AlienX2009~ ) 14:30, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- Keep as per Ryulong. Edward321 (talk) 22:47, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.